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==Section Statistics==
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==Basic statistics==
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==Recent Alerts and Suggestions==
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==Season Section Log==
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* January 3  / Zach / Southbound / 1 day
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A peaceful paddle through the woods. There was one fallen tree across the river requiring easily lifting the boat over. The lago Neltume was very head windy in the afternoon so I walked the road but was quickly offered a ride to Ruta 203 where a bus soon passed.
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* 2019-Dec-3 / Shaun C / 2 Days / Southbound / Regular Packrafting Route
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Plenty of semi-submerged trees in the Rio Liquiñe/CuaCua, but the river is passable and relatively gentle throughout. The entrance to Lago Neltume from the river is beautiful. The hiking turn-off after Neltume at Km 35.7 seemed clear. There’s a wooden gate, then dirt roads. Also spent a few extra hours away from regular route exploring Op-Mr-V@17P-03 to see if there was a way across Rio ChanChan after previous destruction of the bridge. No luck. Seems bridge has not been replaced and in a definitely-not-thorough search, I didn’t find an easy alternative crossing point.
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==Summary Table==
 
{| border="1" style="border-collapse:collapse"
 
{| border="1" style="border-collapse:collapse"
 
|+'''GPT17P: Neltume'''
 
|+'''GPT17P: Neltume'''
|style="background-color:#bfbfbf;"|Traversable
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| colspan="4" style="background-color:#bfbfbf;"| GPT17P: Neltume
|colspan="2"|Nov - May (Conditionally: Sep, Oct)
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| colspan="2" style="background-color:#bfbfbf;"| Hiking
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| colspan="2" style="background-color:#bfbfbf;"| Packrafting
 
|-
 
|-
|style="background-color:#bfbfbf;"|Packraft
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|style="background-color:#bfbfbf;"|Group
|colspan="2"|Required (24.0 km | 24.0 % on Water)
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| colspan="2" | D: Lagos Chilenos
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|style="background-color:#bfbfbf;"| Total
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|style="background-color:#ffbfbf;"|'''-'''
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|style="background-color:#ffbfbf;"|'''-'''
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|style="background-color:#c2edfc;"| '''39.6 km'''
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|style="background-color:#c2edfc;"|'''10 h'''
 
|-
 
|-
|style="background-color:#bfbfbf;"|
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| style="background-color:#bfbfbf;"|Region
|style="background-color:#bfbfbf;"|Hiking
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| colspan="2" | Chile: Los Ríos (XIV)
|style="background-color:#bfbfbf;"|Packrafting
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|style="background-color:#bfbfbf;"| Trails (TL)
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|style="background-color:#ffbfbf;"|-
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|style="background-color:#ffbfbf;"|-
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|style="background-color:#c2edfc;"| 0.7 km
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|style="background-color:#c2edfc;"|1.7%
 
|-
 
|-
|style="background-color:#bfbfbf;"|Attraction
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|style="background-color:#bfbfbf;"| Start
|style="background-color:#ffbfbf;"|No Rating
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| colspan="2" | Reyehueico
|style="background-color:#c2edfc;"| 4 / 5
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|style="background-color:#bfbfbf;"| Minor Roads (MR)
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|style="background-color:#ffbfbf;"|-
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|style="background-color:#ffbfbf;"|-
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|style="background-color:#c2edfc;"| 5.3 km
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|style="background-color:#c2edfc;"| 13.2%
 
|-
 
|-
|style="background-color:#bfbfbf;"|Difficulty
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|style="background-color:#bfbfbf;"| Finish
|style="background-color:#ffbfbf;"|No Rating
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| colspan="2" | Puerto Fuy
|style="background-color:#c2edfc;"| 3 / 5
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|style="background-color:#bfbfbf;"| Primary Roads (PR)
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|style="background-color:#ffbfbf;"|-
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|style="background-color:#ffbfbf;"|-
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|style="background-color:#c2edfc;"| 9.4 km
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|style="background-color:#c2edfc;"| 23.7%
 
|-
 
|-
|style="background-color:#bfbfbf;"|Distance
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|style="background-color:#bfbfbf;"| Status
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| colspan="2" | Published & Verified
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|style="background-color:#bfbfbf;"| Cross-Country (CC)
 
|style="background-color:#ffbfbf;"|-
 
|style="background-color:#ffbfbf;"|-
|style="background-color:#c2edfc;"|40.1 km | 10 h
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|style="background-color:#ffbfbf;"|-
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|style="background-color:#c2edfc;"| 0.3 km
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|style="background-color:#c2edfc;"| 0.6%
 
|-
 
|-
|style="background-color:#bfbfbf;"|Direction
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|style="background-color:#bfbfbf;"| Traversable
|style="background-color:#ffbfbf;"|None
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| colspan="2" | Nov - May (Maybe: Sep, Oct)
|style="background-color:#c2edfc;"|Only ↓
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|style="background-color:#bfbfbf;"| Bush-Bashing (BB)
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|style="background-color:#ffbfbf;"|-
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|style="background-color:#ffbfbf;"|-
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|style="background-color:#c2edfc;"| -
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|style="background-color:#c2edfc;"|-
 
|-
 
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|style="background-color:#bfbfbf;"|Comment
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|style="background-color:#bfbfbf;"| Packraft
|colspan="2"|Hiking: Packraft required
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| colspan="2" | Required
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|style="background-color:#bfbfbf;"| Ferry (FY)
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|style="background-color:#ffbfbf;"|-
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|style="background-color:#ffbfbf;"|-
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|style="background-color:#c2edfc;"| -
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|style="background-color:#c2edfc;"|-
 
|-
 
|-
|style="background-color:#bfbfbf;"|Status
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|style="background-color:#bfbfbf;"| Connects to
|colspan="2"|Published and Verified
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| colspan="2" | GPT16, GPT17H, GPT18
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|style="background-color:#bfbfbf;"| Investigation (I)
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|style="background-color:#ffbfbf;"|-
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|style="background-color:#ffbfbf;"|-
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|style="background-color:#c2edfc;"| (1.8 km)
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|style="background-color:#c2edfc;"| (4.6%)
 
|-
 
|-
|style="background-color:#bfbfbf;"|Zone
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|style="background-color:#bfbfbf;"| Options
|colspan="2"|D: Zona Rios y Lagos Chilenos
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| colspan="2" | 169 km (3 Options & Variants)
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|style="background-color:#bfbfbf;"| Exploration (EXP)
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|style="background-color:#ffbfbf;"|-
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|style="background-color:#ffbfbf;"|-
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|style="background-color:#c2edfc;"| -
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|style="background-color:#c2edfc;"|-
 
|-
 
|-
|style="background-color:#bfbfbf;"|Region
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|
|colspan="2"|Chile: Los Ríos (XIV)
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|style="background-color:#bfbfbf;"| Hiking
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|style="background-color:#bfbfbf;"| Packrafting
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| rowspan="4" style="background-color:#bfbfbf;"|
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| colspan="2" style="background-color:#bfbfbf;"| Total on Water
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|style="background-color:#c2edfc;"| '''24.1 km'''
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|style="background-color:#c2edfc;"| '''60.7%'''
 
|-
 
|-
|style="background-color:#bfbfbf;"|Start
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|style="background-color:#bfbfbf;"| Attraction
|colspan="2"|Reyehueico
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|style="background-color:#ffbfbf;"|-
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|style="background-color:#c2edfc;"| 4 (of 5)
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| colspan="2" style="background-color:#bfbfbf;"| River (RI)
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|style="background-color:#c2edfc;"| 20.4 km
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|style="background-color:#c2edfc;"| 51.5%
 
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|-
|style="background-color:#bfbfbf;"|Finish
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|style="background-color:#bfbfbf;"| Difficulty
|colspan="2"|Puerto Fuy
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|style="background-color:#ffbfbf;"|-
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|style="background-color:#c2edfc;"| 3 (of 5)
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| colspan="2" style="background-color:#bfbfbf;"| Lake (LK)
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|style="background-color:#c2edfc;"| 3.6 km
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|style="background-color:#c2edfc;"| 9.2%
 
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|-
|style="background-color:#bfbfbf;"|Previous Section
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| style="background-color:#bfbfbf;"|Direction
|style="background-color:#bfbfbf;"|Next Section
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|style="background-color:#ffbfbf;"|None
|style="background-color:#bfbfbf;"|Alternative Section
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|style="background-color:#c2edfc;"|Only ↓
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| colspan="2" style="background-color:#bfbfbf;"| Fjord (FJ)
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|style="background-color:#c2edfc;"| -
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|style="background-color:#c2edfc;"|-
 
|-
 
|-
|[[GPT16]]
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|style="background-color:#bfbfbf;"| Comment
|[[GPT18]]
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| colspan="7" | Hiking: Hiking not feasible
|GPT17H
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|style="background-color:#bfbfbf;"| Character
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| colspan="7" | Valdivian Rain Forest, Farmland, Pehuenche, River Packrafting, Lake Packrafting
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|-
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|style="background-color:#bfbfbf;"| Challenges
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| colspan="7" | -
 
|}
 
|}
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==Satellite Image Map==
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==Elevation Profile==
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====Elevation Profile of Regular Packrafting Route====
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[[File:profile GPT17P.PNG|frame|center|Elevation Profile of Regular Hiking Route (2019)]]
 
==Section Planning Status==
 
==Section Planning Status==
 
==Recommended Travel Period==
 
==Recommended Travel Period==
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The packrafting Route is best paddled between November and May.
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==Benefits of Hiking and Packrafting==
 
==Benefits of Hiking and Packrafting==
 
==Recommended Travel Direction==
 
==Recommended Travel Direction==
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Río Liquiñe can only be paddled southbound. Lago Neltume and the hiking portion of the section can be done in either direction.
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==Section Length and Travel Duration==
 
==Section Length and Travel Duration==
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The 40km of this section (25km paddling, 15km hiking) can be completed in about a day and a half.
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==Suitable Section Combinations==
 
==Section Attractiveness==
 
==Section Attractiveness==
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Río Liquiñe is pretty with few signs of other people, and it has  a number of good camping spots. The entrance into Lago Neltume is beautiful, as is the lake itself. The hiking segments are not especially attractive, but Lago Pirihueico at the end of the section is stunning as either a separate add-on packraft, or ferry ride.
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==Section Difficulty==
 
==Section Difficulty==
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There are only a couple of early minor rapids on this part of Rio Liquiñe and it is generally gentle throughout, running at 4-5kmph initially, and 2kmph towards the end. There are, however, many trees in the river, sometimes entirely across it. At low water levels it can be necessary to porter around these, even involving some bush-bashing. But at other times, paddlers have been able to pass without trouble.
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==Resupply==
 
==Resupply==
===Resupply Towns at Start, Finish and off Route===
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===Resupply Town===
===Resupply en Route===
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Puerto Fuy has a few restaurants and food shops.
==Access to Route==
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====Shopping: Food====
==Permits, Entry Fees, Right-of-Way Issues==
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====Shopping: Fuel====
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====Shopping: Equipment====
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====Services: Restaurants====
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====Services: Laundry====
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====Services: ATM and Money Exchange====
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====Accommodation: Hostals and Hotels====
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====Accommodation: Cabañas====
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====Accommodation: Camping====
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====Transport: Ground Transport====
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Regular buses run from Puerto Fuy.
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====Transport: Ferries====
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A car and passenger ferry runs the length of Lago Pirihueico several times a day from Puerto Fuy to the south-eastern end of the lake.
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====Transport: Shipping Services====
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===Resupply on the Trail===
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====Location, Names, Available Items and Services====
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==Access to Route and Return==
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===Access to Start===
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===Return from Finish===
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===Escape Options===
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==Permits, Entry Fees and Right-of-Way Issues==
 
==Regular Route==
 
==Regular Route==
 
===Regular Hiking Route===
 
===Regular Hiking Route===
====Elevation Profile of Regular Hiking Route====
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Previously, the hiking segment went east from Lago Neltume and crossed Rio ChanChan then continued to Puerto Fuy. However, the bridge crossing that river has since been destroyed. So, in the absence of a clear and safe alternative crossing option, the route now follows primary roads for 9km until a turn-off onto more interesting dirt roads at Km35.7.
|frame|center|Elevation Profile of Regular Hiking Route (2019)]]
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====Comments to Regular Hiking Route====
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===Regular Packrafting Route===
 
===Regular Packrafting Route===
====Elevation Profile of Regular Packrafting Route====
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*Route description by Kara Davis after Season 2017/18:
[[File:profile GPT17P.PNG|frame|center|Elevation Profile of Regular Hiking Route (2019)]]
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The GPT does not go through Carriringue, but if you do decide to go into town the route is easy to rejoin by walking south along the paved road, T-29, to Río Liquiñe. There is an established campsite (5.000 CLP/night) which is part of the Red de Turismo Rural where the paved road crosses the river. This campsite has flush toilets, cold showers, and trash.
====Comments to Regular Packrafting Route====
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The Río Liquiñe is windy and narrow. Pay attention to the several semi-submerged fallen trees that litter the river. The packrafting portion of this section ends with a 4 km paddle along the eastern shore of Lago Neltume. There’s easy access to the road, T-29, the entire time, but camping is improbable due to the abundance of private property. At the end of the lake paddle, there is an established campsite (5.000 CLP/night). This site has flush toilets and trash.
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Alternate Route:
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At this point, the recommended packrafting route turns off T-29 onto a gravel road. DO NOT TAKE THIS ROUTE. It eventually leads to a river that is now impassible due to a destroyed bridge. An alternative is to continue along T-29 until reaching the highway, 203-CH. Follow this highway through Neltume all the way to Puerto Fuy. Although the recommended packrafting route turns off of the highway after Neltume, on the ground it was unclear where this turnoff was. We decided to road walk all the way to Puerto Fuy.
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Comment by Jan Dudeck: Last season and this season 3 hikers/couples attempted to follow this route (RP-MR-V@17P-25.1). Two turned back, one made it over the river mentioned by Kara above. So the safest option is currently not take regular route (track RP-MR-V@17P-25.1) but stay on the main road taking Variant “H” (track OP-PR-V@17P-H-#).
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Town: Neltume/Puerto Fuy to Panguipulli
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Neltume has options for lodging, a few restaurants, and a bus to Panguipulli—the closest large town for resupply. Ask a local for directions to the bus stop and about arrival times.
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At Puerto Fuy, there were several signs advertising lodging. However, it would be difficult to resupply here.
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Comment by Jan Dudeck: I recall about half a dozen mini shops in Puerto Fuy that are sometimes hidden in the side roads. But its a best practice to resupply in the first bigger shop you find on the route (i.e. Neltume) and try in the next village to purchase what you did not get in the first place (i.e. Puerto Fuy).
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==Optional Routes==
 
==Optional Routes==
==Investigation and Exploration Tasks==
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==Investigations and Explorations==
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==Links to other Resources==
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==Alerts and Logs of Past Seasons==
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==Images==
 
==Images==
==Related Routes on Wikiexplora==
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==Related Blogs and Online Publications==
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GPT17P


Paddling on the river Cuacuá

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Summary (editar)
Activity Trekking
Location Chile, Valdivia
Atractions Vistas panorámicas
Duration días
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Trail Siempre Claro
Signage Inexistente
Infraestructure Inexistente
Topology Cruce
Gain/Loss (meters) +859, -487
Distance (k) 40.1
Skills No requiere
Original creator Jan Dudeck
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Recent Alerts and Suggestions

Season Section Log

  • January 3 / Zach / Southbound / 1 day

A peaceful paddle through the woods. There was one fallen tree across the river requiring easily lifting the boat over. The lago Neltume was very head windy in the afternoon so I walked the road but was quickly offered a ride to Ruta 203 where a bus soon passed.

  • 2019-Dec-3 / Shaun C / 2 Days / Southbound / Regular Packrafting Route

Plenty of semi-submerged trees in the Rio Liquiñe/CuaCua, but the river is passable and relatively gentle throughout. The entrance to Lago Neltume from the river is beautiful. The hiking turn-off after Neltume at Km 35.7 seemed clear. There’s a wooden gate, then dirt roads. Also spent a few extra hours away from regular route exploring Op-Mr-V@17P-03 to see if there was a way across Rio ChanChan after previous destruction of the bridge. No luck. Seems bridge has not been replaced and in a definitely-not-thorough search, I didn’t find an easy alternative crossing point.

Summary Table

GPT17P: Neltume
GPT17P: Neltume Hiking Packrafting
Group D: Lagos Chilenos Total - - 39.6 km 10 h
Region Chile: Los Ríos (XIV) Trails (TL) - - 0.7 km 1.7%
Start Reyehueico Minor Roads (MR) - - 5.3 km 13.2%
Finish Puerto Fuy Primary Roads (PR) - - 9.4 km 23.7%
Status Published & Verified Cross-Country (CC) - - 0.3 km 0.6%
Traversable Nov - May (Maybe: Sep, Oct) Bush-Bashing (BB) - - - -
Packraft Required Ferry (FY) - - - -
Connects to GPT16, GPT17H, GPT18 Investigation (I) - - (1.8 km) (4.6%)
Options 169 km (3 Options & Variants) Exploration (EXP) - - - -
Hiking Packrafting Total on Water 24.1 km 60.7%
Attraction - 4 (of 5) River (RI) 20.4 km 51.5%
Difficulty - 3 (of 5) Lake (LK) 3.6 km 9.2%
Direction None Only ↓ Fjord (FJ) - -
Comment Hiking: Hiking not feasible
Character Valdivian Rain Forest, Farmland, Pehuenche, River Packrafting, Lake Packrafting
Challenges -

Satellite Image Map

Elevation Profile

Elevation Profile of Regular Packrafting Route

Elevation Profile of Regular Hiking Route (2019)

Section Planning Status

Recommended Travel Period

The packrafting Route is best paddled between November and May.

Benefits of Hiking and Packrafting

Recommended Travel Direction

Río Liquiñe can only be paddled southbound. Lago Neltume and the hiking portion of the section can be done in either direction.

Section Length and Travel Duration

The 40km of this section (25km paddling, 15km hiking) can be completed in about a day and a half.

Suitable Section Combinations

Section Attractiveness

Río Liquiñe is pretty with few signs of other people, and it has a number of good camping spots. The entrance into Lago Neltume is beautiful, as is the lake itself. The hiking segments are not especially attractive, but Lago Pirihueico at the end of the section is stunning as either a separate add-on packraft, or ferry ride.

Section Difficulty

There are only a couple of early minor rapids on this part of Rio Liquiñe and it is generally gentle throughout, running at 4-5kmph initially, and 2kmph towards the end. There are, however, many trees in the river, sometimes entirely across it. At low water levels it can be necessary to porter around these, even involving some bush-bashing. But at other times, paddlers have been able to pass without trouble.

Resupply

Resupply Town

Puerto Fuy has a few restaurants and food shops.

Shopping: Food

Shopping: Fuel

Shopping: Equipment

Services: Restaurants

Services: Laundry

Services: ATM and Money Exchange

Accommodation: Hostals and Hotels

Accommodation: Cabañas

Accommodation: Camping

Transport: Ground Transport

Regular buses run from Puerto Fuy.

Transport: Ferries

A car and passenger ferry runs the length of Lago Pirihueico several times a day from Puerto Fuy to the south-eastern end of the lake.

Transport: Shipping Services

Resupply on the Trail

Location, Names, Available Items and Services

Access to Route and Return

Access to Start

Return from Finish

Escape Options

Permits, Entry Fees and Right-of-Way Issues

Regular Route

Regular Hiking Route

Previously, the hiking segment went east from Lago Neltume and crossed Rio ChanChan then continued to Puerto Fuy. However, the bridge crossing that river has since been destroyed. So, in the absence of a clear and safe alternative crossing option, the route now follows primary roads for 9km until a turn-off onto more interesting dirt roads at Km35.7.

Regular Packrafting Route

  • Route description by Kara Davis after Season 2017/18:

The GPT does not go through Carriringue, but if you do decide to go into town the route is easy to rejoin by walking south along the paved road, T-29, to Río Liquiñe. There is an established campsite (5.000 CLP/night) which is part of the Red de Turismo Rural where the paved road crosses the river. This campsite has flush toilets, cold showers, and trash. The Río Liquiñe is windy and narrow. Pay attention to the several semi-submerged fallen trees that litter the river. The packrafting portion of this section ends with a 4 km paddle along the eastern shore of Lago Neltume. There’s easy access to the road, T-29, the entire time, but camping is improbable due to the abundance of private property. At the end of the lake paddle, there is an established campsite (5.000 CLP/night). This site has flush toilets and trash. Alternate Route: At this point, the recommended packrafting route turns off T-29 onto a gravel road. DO NOT TAKE THIS ROUTE. It eventually leads to a river that is now impassible due to a destroyed bridge. An alternative is to continue along T-29 until reaching the highway, 203-CH. Follow this highway through Neltume all the way to Puerto Fuy. Although the recommended packrafting route turns off of the highway after Neltume, on the ground it was unclear where this turnoff was. We decided to road walk all the way to Puerto Fuy. Comment by Jan Dudeck: Last season and this season 3 hikers/couples attempted to follow this route (RP-MR-V@17P-25.1). Two turned back, one made it over the river mentioned by Kara above. So the safest option is currently not take regular route (track RP-MR-V@17P-25.1) but stay on the main road taking Variant “H” (track OP-PR-V@17P-H-#). Town: Neltume/Puerto Fuy to Panguipulli Neltume has options for lodging, a few restaurants, and a bus to Panguipulli—the closest large town for resupply. Ask a local for directions to the bus stop and about arrival times. At Puerto Fuy, there were several signs advertising lodging. However, it would be difficult to resupply here. Comment by Jan Dudeck: I recall about half a dozen mini shops in Puerto Fuy that are sometimes hidden in the side roads. But its a best practice to resupply in the first bigger shop you find on the route (i.e. Neltume) and try in the next village to purchase what you did not get in the first place (i.e. Puerto Fuy).

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