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GPT27H (Lago Palena)

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=Overview=
* General Recommendation: the critical point (the crux of the section) is the ford of Rio Claro/Quinto. This river crossing not too far from the southern start Lago Verde. Therefore it is highly recommended to go northbound and attempt this section after most of the snow is molten and without heavy rains predicted. If you walk southbound and can't cross Rio Claro or Rio Quinto you face a long & rough walk back.
=Section Log, Alerts and Suggestions=
==Season 2025/26==
''' GPT27/2026-01-30 to 2026-02-02/3,5 days/ SOBO/RR-variant D,E/Denis, Robert '''
 
 
Good resupply option in Palena.
No water issues for the whole section.
 
 
First day was easy going mostly on minor road and last kilometers on trail.
After kilometer 20 you need to ford Rio Azul few times but water level was up to my knee. We slept at the end of the valley at 32km. We forgot caffe filter there, so if you find it it’s yours.Nice spot next to the river before going uphill.
 
CC is not difficult, it is basically slalom between small bushes but always with the good option to avoid them. At elevation 860m we joined really nice trail leading us to the pass. Nice camping spot at km 36 with water anywhere on the meadow or as well in the pass nice small lake with tiny island in the middle and amazing views from the both spots. Way down from the pass is fine on trail with few fallen trees but nothing crazy.
 
Then from 40 km as we got down to lake it started. From here to 76 km when we forded Rio Claro it was very challenging. Don’t expect more than 200 meters of trail without fallen trees. And expect slower pace something around 2-2,5km/hour. At least trail is almost everywhere visible. So it is easier to navigate.
 
On this stretch there are some better and worse parts.
40-47km, 52-54km many fallen trees you need to climb over or go around.
68-76km fallen trees, mud and trail goes everywhere but not straight where you would expect. ( this part took us almost 4 hours)
 
After fording river at 76km it is easy going trail and there are many nice camping spots in forest for next 7km. We missed the RR so we stayed on variant D and then variant E seemed to be much easier and we had enough of fallen trees.
 
Difficulty 5/5
Attractiveness 3/5
==Season 2024/25==
 
*'''2025-FEB-13 to 2025-FEB-16 / 3,5 days / Hiking / SOBO / RR+OH (var. D, E) / Ivan, Jakub, Daniel, Martina'''
 
A beautifully wild and forested section, full of fallen tree crossings but also offering some stunning viewpoints.
 
At coordinates (-43.7153061, -71.8151759), the MR ended at a fence, beyond which bush bashing seemed likely. Instead, we followed a small path uphill to a road (end of variant A). As the steep ascent began, we stayed on the trail marked in OSM maps. The trail occasionally faded, but it wasn't that hard CC. Just below the pass, we found Chaura berries.
 
The descent toward Lago Palena includes some sections where we had to deal with some fallen trees. However, the real challenge comes in the stretch between Lake [43.2/948] (Puntilla Lopez) and Refuge ? [45.7/974], where fallen trees become a major obstacle. From this point, the number of fallen trees blocking the trail decreases significantly but remains enough to haunt your dreams at night. The houses near Refuge, Park Ranger [52.1/947] appear abandoned.
 
The river crossings near the lake at km [62-62.8] were passable with dry feet due to low water levels. From Camp [68/809], the trail becomes very muddy. A simple trail starts after the crossing at [75.6/375]. We followed the path until we reached variant D, which was a longer but nice detour. The crossing at [85/402] was also dry-foot passable. The trail leading from X [90.2/543] appeared overgrown, so we opted for variant E.
 
CHALLENGES:
Fallen trees blocking the trail
Muddy path sections
 
BIVOUACKING:
Before the pass ascent [37.1/1367], there are plenty of tent spots near the creek.
Several camping spots are available near the lake.
We spent the night at the lake’s inlet, just past the crossing [43.0/943].
The next night, we stayed at Camp [68/809], which offers multiple tent spots and a fire pit.
 
WATER:
Water is plentiful throughout the section.
 
RESUPPLY:
We arrived in Lago Verde in the evening. The only store open on Sunday until 21:00 was at coordinates (-44.2385274, -71.8502104), offering a decent selection of supplies. Another supermarket at (-44.2408180, -71.8494809) reportedly opens at 10:30 on weekdays.
 
 
* ''' 2025-FEV-03 > 06 / 3,5 jours / Randonnée / SOBO / RR > 27-D > RR > 27-E > RR / Pierre-Marie ​​'''
 
Etape : GPT27+GPT28+<strike>GPT29</strike>+GPT30
| Meteo : petite pluie, soleil, petite pluie, nuages et vent
| Eau : facile
| Neige : non
| Intérêt : 4/5
| Difficulté : 5/5
| Danger : gravel road, boue, arbres couchés
 
La pause à Palena m'a fait du bien. Je repars en faisant de l'auto-stop les 5 premiers km. La gravel road se termine vite et la vallée est vraiment belle. Il y a deux fords à la suite aux km 30,5 et 30,7. Sur cette section j'ai trouvé que les endroits où le sentier débouche sur la rivière sont rarement les endroits les plus simple pour traverser. J'ai souvent marché quelques dizaines de mètres pour assurer mes traversées. Le sentier est balisé mais il ne faut pas compter dessus. La montée du km 33 se fait en hors piste. Il est facile de retrouver le sentier plus haut car il n'y a pas de végétation dans le sous-bois. La forêt est magnifique sur cette section du GPT. Il y a beaucoup d'arbres couchés sur le sentier, mais ce sont surtout des zones, ce n'est pas uniforme. Ca commence au km 39. La partie la plus difficile se situe entre le km 43 et 46 où on est sérieusement ralenti. Il y a quelques centaines de mètres qui sont envahie par la végétation mais ca n'impacte pas la randonnée. Il y a un ford au km 52,2.
Vers le km 59 le sentier disparaît, il faut suivre son GPS jusqu'au km 61. Il y a plein de vaches dans cette zone, elles sont arrivées par le sentier sud. Je n'ai pas marché dans l'eau du lac car le niveau était suffisamment bas, sauf pour le ford du km 62,9 ce qui est normal. Grâce aux vaches le sentier est plus facile a suivre, mais il est particulièrement boueux. Il y a quelques passages boueux dès le km 66. Mais du km 68 au km 75 c'est vraiment une ornière de boue pendant 7km. La randonnee est vraiment difficile sur cette zone. Du km 75 au km 76 le sentier est difficile à suivre. Ensuite la forêt est plus sèche mais tout aussi belle que la précédente. Le sentier est en bon état. Je suis passé par la 27-D car j'ai suivi les traces des vaches. Après le km 83,5 j'ai suivi la route et pas la trace GPS.
 
* <span style="background-color:aqua;">'''GPT27H Option 3 / Lago Rosselot / Round Trip / 2024-Nov-18 and 19 / 2 days / Meylin Ubilla and Jan Dudeck'''</span>
 
We opted to paddle this scenic lake as part of our packrafting warmup at the beginning of the season.
 
For me, Lago Rosselot is part of the top ten packrafting lakes of the GPT. The north-south orientation makes this 22 km long lake relatively wind protected. There are a few houses on the northern terminus and at the two river deltas 5 km south of the northern terminus. So most of the lake is pure wilderness. Packrafters that paddle Rio Palena should consider stopping at La Junta, paddle this lake and continue with Palena.
 
The mostly steep shore limits the exit options significantly. Suitable camp sites are at the northern terminus, both river deltas and at the southern terminus. Packrafters best go to the southern terminus in one day and return on the next morning. To avoid wind on a normal sunny day best get up early and arrive early.
==Season 2023/24==
*'''2024-Feb-15 to 2024-Feb-20 / 5 days / Hiking / SOBO / RR - {27-E} - RR / Lilian'''
Just like Quentin Clavel said,
I took some hours just sit beside some trees and observe beetles fighting, and one of them lose in the fight then drop on my head haha :D
 
Beautiful water + rainforest + animals = GPT27
The trail from north to Lago Palena til lake inlet and from south to Ford,camp[62.9/883], i think are still maintained by some people, i saw sticks is cut by machete not long time ago, some still with fresh green leaves.
 
 
 
Km0 - km16.5 : hot dirt road, nothing special, recommend hitch as many if you can.
Km31.15 : Puesto at the left side.
 
 
Km31.7 : after RR met a stream, i didn't follow RR again, just CC beside the stream, sometimes follow cow paths, sometimes just go by myself. Then i find a refuge at (-43.83791, -71.86699). It is unlocked and in good condition, 2 beds inside, 1 with mattress and 1 without, the one without mattress looks cleaner. I think it can use in bad weather. There is also a side trail from refuge to the viewpoint(-43.83872, -71.86624) of waterfall, easy to follow.
Quentin Clavel said hard part is start at km39, km39 is a blowdowns combination but just about 20m then easy walk again, some blowdowns and some overgrown but in an easy condition mostly just take you 2 second to step over them. The really hard part is not here.
 
 
Km39.65 : Camping spot no.35 at (-43.87829, -71.86105), can fit 2-3 tents with fire ring and log seats. There is a small stream flowing and a gate(-43.87819, -71.86119) with barbed wire after the spot.
Km43.2 : camping spot(-43.89231, -71.88335) can fit 2-4 tents with fire ring and log seats.
 
 
 
Then, GAME STARTS.
First of all, join the trail at (-43.89307, -71.88426), no more trail at the pud.
 
 
 
Refuge?[45.7/974] : no refuge, no camping spot, just an old bridge left.
Km59.25 : trail junction(-43.96833, -71.85480), the clear trail going straight is not RR, it looks like going to the lake at west(i walked it a little because i missed the junction). Sobo turn left here, but the trail is very confused, not easy to follow and sometimes no more trail until camp[60.0/894]. It is not a good camping spot, can fit 1 tent with log seats and fire pit, also beside a flowing water but surrounded by lot of fresh cow poops, they also put their poops on the log seats.(It is cow's party spot) After here the trail will be better some moments, then confused again until next river crossing.
 
 
 
Ford[60.6/887] : you need to cross side stream and main river(Río Claro) at here. Both are milky water. First for side stream, go down to water at crossing point(-43.97678, -71.85529),a little muddy but fine, then 5m downstream step on the rock bar to the other side, just below knee. No need to climb up to other side immediately, turn right to main river in the water, go around the corner on sand bar, then cross the main river on another rock bar, knee deep but easy. When you get to the other side(-43.97729, -71.85489) of main river, an old conaf post there, then trail becomes easy condition. Can fit 1 tent on a spot after crossing but i recommend the next spot.
From km61.8 to ford,camp[62.9/883], you walking beside 2 beautiful lake, sometimes very close to lake, or step on some rocks at the shore of lake, but never need to walk in the water at now as late season. No camping spot until ford,camp[62.9/883].
 
 
 
Ford,camp[62.9/883] : i crossed it at the point(-43.99268, -71.84577) that Quentin Clavel said, "that's the place where the lake begins to be a river, and there were no current". Up to hip and no flowing, wet my shorts but easy. You can stand on some huge blowdowns laid on the shore to observe your crossing route.
After you climb up, trail with some blowdowns, some overgrown and muddy.
 
 
Km69.55 : maze area, lot of blowdowns, lot of side trail, and lot of cutting sign, made me confused for some moments here.
Refuge[75.5/385] : good condition with fire ring inside. Large flat area outside beside refuge, can fit 4-6 tents with fire ring and log seats. {27H-02}'s trail looks clear and easy to follow at here.
 
 
Ford[75.6/375] : the last crossing of Río Claro, also the strongest one. I crossed at here(-44.07080, -71.87756), upstream of GPX track where the river start dropping down, looks like is the shalloest part at this crossing. Huge rock bar underwater. Flowing strong and above knee, a little challenge but still easy crossing, rock bar's rocks are huge size and stable, so I just walking and use the rocks for balance that push back the force from current.
Bridge[95.0/318] : cross Río Pico on a large bridge, huge flat area with some small trees and brushes after the crossing, looks like upstream is better and i find at least 3 fire ring there. It is the last good camping spot before Lago Verde.
 
 
About Lago Verde,
Need advance booking, you can call or whatsapp Blanca Jara +56 9 94738219, and "Lago Verde - La Junta" is 2000 CLP.
 
Shop1 (-44.24083, -71.84950), lot of food selection and good stock, can full resupply here, but no gas canisters.
Bus stops at (-44.24035, -71.85012).
   * '''From 20232024-02-05 to 20232024-02-08 // 4 days // Hiking // NOBO // RR // Quentin Clavel'''
If you love wilderness, you will love this section !
I really loved that wild section, the rainforest is amazing, all the flora there is incredible, it's just you and the nature, you'll say that most of the sections of GPT are like that. But here's a little bit more than usual.
 
* '''2023 February Frank'''
There was a fire in Valle Tigre but it was up on the mountain & had no effect on the RR which is in the valley on a road. The crux ford is the first one on Rio Claro/Quinto which you can reach in one long day NOBO. 4 more fords on Rio Claro & 4 on Rio Azul, all knee deep & easy when I went through in late February.
==Season 2022/23==
*General Recommendation: the critical point (the crux of the section) is the ford of Rio Claro/Quinto. This river crossing not too far from the southern start Lago Verde. Therefore it is highly recommended to go northbound and attempt this section after most of the snow is molten and without heavy rains predicted. If you walk southbound and can't cross Rio Claro or Rio Quinto you face a long & rough walk back.  * ''2023-Mar-10 to 2023-Mar-14 / 4 days / Hiking / SOBO / RR / Martin & Helena'''
Quite challenging section, especially in cold and rainy days we had. The trail around Lago Palena is not very well maintained and hundreds of fallen trees are making hiking there pretty difficult. Expect rather more hiking hours to finish the section than what is in manual.
Contact: @martin_hanzelka @helenneka
 *'''2023-Feb-21 / 4 days / NOBO / RR / Frank'''
19KM on small road from Lago Verde, then you reach a settler's house. Go round the house to right, handrailing a wooden fence. RR goes in on a small trail, a bit overgrown with lots of fallen trees & muddy most of the way to Lago Palena. About 40KM from the settler's house to Lago Palena, average speed 2KMPH. The crux crossing is the first one on Rio Claro/Quinto NOBO. If you can cross it all crossings should be OK. It was a little under waist deep when I crossed, late in season & weather had been dry. There is a small hut just after the crossing. Continued to second crossing of Rio Claro & camped there (a long day) On day 2 I went round the lake & reached the CONAF huts. Going round the lake was OK, I was able to throw a few rocks for stepping stones & get by with dry feet. The CONAF huts are partly built & look abandoned. Continued to Lago Palena & camped on the shore. There is a campsite/refuge marked on the track file above Lago Palena on a rock outcrop, couldn't find it & no trail to it. Best to camp at the lake.
==Season 2021/22==
 * '''<span style="background-color:aqua;">GPT27H Option 3 / Lago Rosselot / 2021Pacrafting / 2021-Dec-08 and 09 / Direction: Circuit</span>'''
Participants: Meylin Elisabeth Ubilla González and Jan Dudeck
==Season 2019/20==
* '''Martin Lizondo / 8 to 14-Jan-2020 / Hiking Southbound'''
Río Claro/Quinto currently impossible to cross. Recommended time: February after some days with no or little rain. Best hike northbound to cross this river at the beginning of the traverse. See also log for further recommendations.
Now (15-Jan-2020) it snowed at the mountains again, so rivers may be impossible to ford. From that reason I consider February to be the best time to hike this section, better going northbound, in order to ford Río Claro/Quinto as soon as possible.
 
==Season 2018/19==
 
==Season 2017/18==
 
==Season 2016/17==
 
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