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AriGPT en 23:02 29 dic 2025

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	==Season 2025/26==		==Season 2025/26==
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		+	''' GPT 40 \| 2/26-2/26 \| 2.5 Days \| Clockwise RR \| Graham and Gabe '''
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		+	A nice route, not too challenging, definitely recommend going this direction rather the recommended counter clockwise.
		+	First night Bahia de Horno, okay protection.
		+	Big day to Camp at Laguna Toro, the ascent up Paso Huemul is more technical than challenging. I would personally disliked going down it. Nice views of glacier.
		+	Climb up Paso del Viento from this direction is quite chill. Walked on rocks alongside glacier Tunel, this was quite annoying.
		+	Wasn’t asked to pay when finishing the route.

	*'''2026-03-05 to 2026-03-08 / 4 days / hiking / clockwise / RR / Isabelle & Sander'''		*'''2026-03-05 to 2026-03-08 / 4 days / hiking / clockwise / RR / Isabelle & Sander'''

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 ==Season 2025/26==
-'''2026-03-05 to 2026-03-08 / 4 days / hiking / clockwise / RR / Isabelle & Sander'''
+*'''2026-03-05 to 2026-03-08 / 4 days / hiking / clockwise / RR / Isabelle & Sander'''
 Incredible views of the icefield! Clockwise is very nice, you’ll have the icefield in front of you for many hours. Amazing weather window without any wind, very comfortable but also quite some people. Didn’t meet anyone else doing clockwise so we were alone on the first day, met dozens of people on day 2 but only during lunch and at camp, on day 3 much less and day 4 just a couple. Clockwise lets you climb de steep and eroded trail up to the huemul pass which we consider safer. An early hiker was coming down, didn’t see us and a large boulder coming down almost hit Isabelle. So better start early to avoid being with other people on this steep part. Beautiful family of condors flying over very low.

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 At one of the tyrolers we met a duo that had their harness upside down and way too lose while crossing. We could help them, but it seems many people don’t know what to do. There are good videos online if you’ve never done it before. The rivers were low and fording looked actually very doable at the right spots.
-If you want to avoid the busy Toro campsite a good spot is on the gravel where the river enters the Laguna Toro (-49.38590, -73.05945). Next to a  rockwall on its western side but we didn’t have wind so not are how sheltered it really is. In the stream next to trail we caught cool red tiny copepods in our drinking water (don’t use soap).
+If you want to avoid the busy Toro campsite a good spot is on the gravel where the river enters the Laguna Toro (-49.38590, -73.05945). Next to a  rockwall on its western side but we didn’t have wind so not sure how sheltered it really is. In the stream next to trail we caught cool red tiny copepods in our drinking water (don’t use soap).
 '''GPT40 /2026-02-11 to 2026-02-13 / 2.5 days / RR / Counter Clockwise / Alex and Aoife'''

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 '''2026-03-05 to 2026-03-08 / 4 days / hiking / clockwise / RR / Isabelle & Sander'''
-Incredible views of the icefield! Clockwise is very nice. Amazing weather window without any wind, very comfortable but also quite some people. Didn’t meet anyone else doing clockwise so we were alone on the first day, met dozens of people on day 2 but only during lunch and at camp, on day 3 much less and day 4 just a couple. Clockwise lets you climb de steep and eroded trail up to the huemul pass which we consider safer. An early hiker was coming down, didn’t see us and a large boulder coming down almost hit Isabelle. So better start early to avoid being with other people on this steep part. Beautiful family of condors flying over very low.
+Incredible views of the icefield! Clockwise is very nice, you’ll have the icefield in front of you for many hours. Amazing weather window without any wind, very comfortable but also quite some people. Didn’t meet anyone else doing clockwise so we were alone on the first day, met dozens of people on day 2 but only during lunch and at camp, on day 3 much less and day 4 just a couple. Clockwise lets you climb de steep and eroded trail up to the huemul pass which we consider safer. An early hiker was coming down, didn’t see us and a large boulder coming down almost hit Isabelle. So better start early to avoid being with other people on this steep part. Beautiful family of condors flying over very low.
 We did a little detour to de Campamento Laguna de los Esquies (-49.38273, -73.15105 ) few km west of the paso del viento to get closer to the icefield, here are just a couple of sheltered spots. It’s a great alternative to the busy Refugio paso del viento. At least ten camping spots with little stone walls against the wind are at the campamento closer to the paso del viento (see osm map).

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	'''2026-03-05 to 2026-03-08 / 4 days / hiking / clockwise / RR / Isabelle & Sander'''		'''2026-03-05 to 2026-03-08 / 4 days / hiking / clockwise / RR / Isabelle & Sander'''
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	Incredible views of the icefield! Clockwise is very nice. Amazing weather window without any wind, very comfortable but also quite some people. Didn’t meet anyone else doing clockwise so we were alone on the first day, met dozens of people on day 2 but only during lunch and at camp, on day 3 much less and day 4 just a couple. Clockwise lets you climb de steep and eroded trail up to the huemul pass which we consider safer. An early hiker was coming down, didn’t see us and a large boulder coming down almost hit Isabelle. So better start early to avoid being with other people on this steep part. Beautiful family of condors flying over very low.		Incredible views of the icefield! Clockwise is very nice. Amazing weather window without any wind, very comfortable but also quite some people. Didn’t meet anyone else doing clockwise so we were alone on the first day, met dozens of people on day 2 but only during lunch and at camp, on day 3 much less and day 4 just a couple. Clockwise lets you climb de steep and eroded trail up to the huemul pass which we consider safer. An early hiker was coming down, didn’t see us and a large boulder coming down almost hit Isabelle. So better start early to avoid being with other people on this steep part. Beautiful family of condors flying over very low.

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 =Overview=
 =Section Log, Alerts and Suggestions
 ==Season 2025/26==

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	==Season 2025/26==		==Season 2025/26==
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		+	'''GPT40 /2026-02-11 to 2026-02-13 / 2.5 days / RR / Counter Clockwise / Alex and Aoife'''
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		+	Attractiveness: 5 / 5
		+	Difficulty: 2 / 5
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		+	The views of the Glacier Viedma are expansive and incredible. It's a well maintained, signposted, quick track. Felt nice to switch off from navigating and follow your nose. I think we checked the map only on a couple of occasions.
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		+	We read getting to the ranger hut before 7am would mean free access. That info is no longer valid it would seem. We got there at 0620am and a ranger was waiting to collect our 45k ARS pp.
		+	-49.338487, -72.885043
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		+	We originally planned on hiking up to Laguna Torre for sunrise then up and over Paseo de las Agochonas. This would provide free entry and another Tyrolean experience.
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		+	Hired our ‘Huemel kit' for the Tyroleans from ‘Oeste Viento’ at the N end of town. 10k Per day for Harness, 1 steel and 1 aluminium biner and a sling. For an extra 2k per day we got 35m length of cord for pulley retrieval on the Tyrolean. We did actually have to use it once as a fixed line wasn't in place at the time so would advise to carry. We only hired one set of gear for 2 people.
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		+	Day 1
		+	We got to camp on day 1 at 1030am so decided to push on and combine the first 2 days. It meant to got to the first Tyrolean at around midday where only one other person was there so no queues.
		+	After a big day we camped near Refugio Viento with everyone else.
		+	Paseo De Las Viento, is exactly that. Mucho Viento.
		+	No issues with water.
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		+	Day 2
		+	Short day, the descent from Huemel Pass is steep as expected but very manageable. I personally would have found it difficult without the use of hiking poles. But that's my preference. We chose to camp near:
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		+	Camp {41-01} [0.4/255
		+	-49.482010, -72.963736
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		+	in a nice sheltered nook from the prevailing winds. No other people around and 1 min walk to views of icebergs and glaciers.
		+	We filled up water and carried from the stream before the previous Tèmpanos Campsite.
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		+	Day 3.
		+	We got up early for sunrise, saw no one until we got to the highway.
		+	Easy walking. The Tyrolean was fun.
		+	We were back in town by midday.
		+	Water along route. We filled up at the streams before the Tyrolean, if its a sunny day it's quite a hot dry walk back to El chalten through the pampa so carry a little extra.
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		+	In El chalten we camped at Complejo turístico El Relincho, 22k ARS pp. Most expensive campsite yet. Great kitchen and showers though.
		+	Numerous camp stores and supermarkets. We used the 2 on the main street. Great fresh produce here. Gas cannister was 8500ARS from Oeste Viento.

	<big> '''December 31 to Jan 3, 2026/ 4 days/ Hiking/ Anti-clockwise/ RR/ Edwin'''<big>		<big> '''December 31 to Jan 3, 2026/ 4 days/ Hiking/ Anti-clockwise/ RR/ Edwin'''<big>

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	==Season 2025/26==		==Season 2025/26==
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		+	<big> '''December 31 to Jan 3, 2026/ 4 days/ Hiking/ Anti-clockwise/ RR/ Edwin'''<big>
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		+	Classic 4 day trek staying at the recommended camping sites except that I camped the second night a few hundred meters before the refuge to avoid the crowds. Seems to be getting pretty popular, there were at least 20 tents each night. Rightly popular I like to add, it is very beautiful... Trails are usually quite clear, also where it says cc in the trackfiles.
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		+	I did not carry a harness. Crossing the glacier fed rio Tunel the first time was easy, I crossed just above the lake, early in the morning and without rain, so flow was low. The second crossing was a bit more difficult, I crossed early afternoon on a hot day and the night had been warm to, so the water came up to my crotch and I am 1.90 meters tall. Not too fast flowing but quite a few big slippery boulders in the river. Don't change into your sandals I would say!
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		+	The downhill from paso Huemul was very unpleasant. In my opinion, the national park authorities need to do their bit and improve safety on this part. Don't wanna think about descending there when it rains...
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		+	Be prepared to hang around a bit in el Chaltén to wait for a good weather forecast, even though in my experience these are not that reliable when it comes to forecasting wind speeds.

	<big> '''December 22 to 24, 2025/ 3 days/ Hiking/ Anti-clockwise'''<big>		<big> '''December 22 to 24, 2025/ 3 days/ Hiking/ Anti-clockwise'''<big>

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 <big> '''December 22 to 24, 2025/ 3 days/ Hiking/ Anti-clockwise'''<big>
-I did the hike anti-clockwise by following the traditional campsites on the first two nights: Camp Toro [16.6] and Paso Del Viento (Shelter): [27.9]. On the third day, I finished the trek. The first campsite is in the forest and has very nice wind barriers, so not much to worry about in terms of weather. The second camp is much more exposed as well as having much stronger winds. I was told that the weather matters for "days 2 and 3," which is really anything inbetween Camp Toro and Paso Huemel because inbetween those two points you are on a different side of the mountain. So, check either on Wind Guru or with the ranger station about the weather for the days you expect to be there. However, even the weather reports can be quite misleading. I received a report of gusts up to 100 km/h on Paso Huemel, and while they were quite strong, definetely not that strong. However, it could easily go the other way. Unfortunately, while both camping areas themselves are beautiful, humans have made them very dirty by not digging holes when going to the bathroom and simply going on the surface as well as many tissues and wipes visible when walking around. Therefore, I see the appeal in going to one of the campsites the rangers do not suggest (e.g. Tunel, although the wind is much more of a factor there). The hike is very beautiful, and you see incredible views of the Viedma Glacier and other smaller glaciers, making it very rewarding.
+I did the hike anti-clockwise by following the traditional campsites on the first two nights: Camp Toro [16.6] and Paso Del Viento (Shelter): [27.9]. On the third day, I finished the trek. The first campsite is in the forest and has very nice wind barriers, so not much to worry about in terms of weather. The second camp is much more exposed as well as having much stronger winds. I was told that the weather matters for "days 2 and 3," which is really anything inbetween Camp Toro and Paso Huemel because inbetween those two points you are on a different side of the mountain. So, check either on Wind Guru or with the ranger station about the weather for the days you expect to be there. However, even the weather reports can be quite misleading. I received a report of gusts up to 100 km/h on Paso Huemel, and while they were quite strong, they were probably closer to 75 km/h at their maximum. However, it could easily go the other way with winds being stronger than the prediction. Unfortunately, while both camping areas themselves are beautiful, humans have made them very dirty by not digging holes when going to the bathroom and simply going on the surface as well as many tissues and wipes visible when walking around. Therefore, I see the appeal in going to one of the campsites the rangers do not suggest (e.g. Tunel, although the wind is much more of a factor there). The hike is very beautiful, and you see incredible views of the Viedma Glacier and other smaller glaciers, making it very rewarding.
 Regarding the Tyrolean traverses, the first one [18.2+0.3, 664], I did with the harness because others around me were also doing so, but it seemed quicker to simply ford. The second zip line, I didn't want to waste the time fishing out my harness, so I simply forded. I'm ~185 cm and the water was very cold and came up to my middle to upper thigh.