GPT39 (Monte Fitzroy) - Historial de revisiones

Artmusicayla: /* Season 2025/26 */

2026-11-09T12:58:03Z

Season 2025/26

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			'''2026-Nov-5, 6 / 2 day / hiking / Ayla and Sebastian (going north from here)'''

			-Nov 5: did our grocery shopping in the morning and started mid day along trail to Laguna torre. Lots of peeps! No entrance fees but we had bought a spot at poincenot to contribute to the park. Then we crossed over to Poincenot campground, have to book online prior to going. Filtered all our water with how many people were around. We set up camp and did an out and back to lago de Los tres. Looks like they’re doing good work to stop off trail erosion. Very beautiful! Wild granite.

			-Nov 6: took Rio electrico trail, and then took the longer route along the trail at the end instead of to the lodging place. Fast nice trail. Got to the road/bridge at 10a. Waited 1 hour to get picked up by a nice couple and had a pizza (30k and they have WiFi) before starting the beautiful lake walk to the Argentina border (also great trail). Saw some skiers ending a traverse, will have to come back!

	*'''2026-03-03 / 1 day / hiking / SOBO / OH2 and C / Isabelle & Sander'''		*'''2026-03-03 / 1 day / hiking / SOBO / OH2 and C / Isabelle & Sander'''

Leonorman6: /* Section Log, Alerts and Suggestions */

2026-11-08T21:34:50Z

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	==Season 2025/26==		==Season 2025/26==

Ivanderzanden: /* Season 2025/26 */

2026-03-11T18:31:17Z

Season 2025/26

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	'''2026-03-03 / 1 day / hiking / SOBO / OH2 and C / Isabelle & Sander'''		*'''2026-03-03 / 1 day / hiking / SOBO / OH2 and C / Isabelle & Sander'''

	Just wanted to get to El Chalten. Hitchhiked the road from the expensive campsite at lago del desierto to the bridge over Rio Electrico. Weather was rainy but still found a hitch in 15 minutes. When we started hiking on oh2 we had to pay for one day 45k arp, like 30 euros, felt a bit steep since we were just walking the shortest way to El Chalten but discounts are available for multiple days. Prices seem to go up every year.		Just wanted to get to El Chalten. Hitchhiked the road from the expensive campsite at lago del desierto to the bridge over Rio Electrico. Weather was rainy but still found a hitch in 15 minutes. When we started hiking on oh2 we had to pay for one day 45k arp, like 30 euros, felt a bit steep since we were just walking the shortest way to El Chalten but discounts are available for multiple days. Prices seem to go up every year.

Ivanderzanden: /* Season 2025/26 */

2026-03-11T18:04:47Z

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	* '''2026-03-03 / 1 day / hiking / SOBO / OH2 and C / Isabelle & Sander'''		'''2026-03-03 / 1 day / hiking / SOBO / OH2 and C / Isabelle & Sander'''

	Just wanted to get to El Chalten. Hitchhiked the road from the expensive campsite at lago del desierto to the bridge over Rio Electrico. Weather was rainy but still found a hitch in 15 minutes. When we started hiking on oh2 we had to pay for one day 45k arp, like 30 euros, felt a bit steep since we were just walking the shortest way to El Chalten but discounts are available for multiple days. Prices seem to go up every year.		Just wanted to get to El Chalten. Hitchhiked the road from the expensive campsite at lago del desierto to the bridge over Rio Electrico. Weather was rainy but still found a hitch in 15 minutes. When we started hiking on oh2 we had to pay for one day 45k arp, like 30 euros, felt a bit steep since we were just walking the shortest way to El Chalten but discounts are available for multiple days. Prices seem to go up every year.

Ivanderzanden: /* Season 2025/26 */Log Isabelle and sander

2026-03-11T18:04:33Z

Season 2025/26: Log Isabelle and sander

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	==Season 2025/26==		==Season 2025/26==

			* '''2026-03-03 / 1 day / hiking / SOBO / OH2 and C / Isabelle & Sander'''

			Just wanted to get to El Chalten. Hitchhiked the road from the expensive campsite at lago del desierto to the bridge over Rio Electrico. Weather was rainy but still found a hitch in 15 minutes. When we started hiking on oh2 we had to pay for one day 45k arp, like 30 euros, felt a bit steep since we were just walking the shortest way to El Chalten but discounts are available for multiple days. Prices seem to go up every year.
			OH2 was empty and Laguna piedras blancas was cool. From camping Poicenot it was very busy, but the views are super nice.




	'''GPT39 / 2026-02-08 / 1 day / Lift, Hiking, Bus / RR / SOBO / Alex and Aoife'''		'''GPT39 / 2026-02-08 / 1 day / Lift, Hiking, Bus / RR / SOBO / Alex and Aoife'''

Aymaynard: /* Season 2025/26 */Track log

2026-02-14T11:53:47Z

Season 2025/26: Track log

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	==Season 2025/26==		==Season 2025/26==

			'''GPT39 / 2026-02-08 / 1 day / Lift, Hiking, Bus / RR / SOBO / Alex and Aoife'''

			39 was just a transit Stage for us to get to El Chalten as our Holiday is nearing an end.

			Organised with Ricardo a lift to the Argentina/Chile Border for 30k CLP. This is something he does regularly for people.

			We got our passports stamped at Chilean border, which took around 10 mins per person.

			Ricardo drove us 1hr to the border then you have to walk the final 7km into the Argentine Border Checkpoint. Super easy and fast walking.

			Once at the Argentina check Point it took them around 5 mins to stamp both our passports. They did not check our bags, ask questions or anything.

			No ferry that day so we walked the RR around Lago Desierto, we had to do it quick as we knew there was a 6pm bus leaving the southern end.

			Bus was expensive at 40,000 Argentinian Pesos but we were tired and happy to pay. We only just got a seat on the bus potentially worth booking ahead. Company was Zona Austral Turismo +5492966709153.

	'''2026-Jan-14 to 2025-Jan-15 / 1.5 days / Hiking / NOBO / RR + Laguna Sucia + Option B / Kole & Emily'''		'''2026-Jan-14 to 2025-Jan-15 / 1.5 days / Hiking / NOBO / RR + Laguna Sucia + Option B / Kole & Emily'''

Egforrester18 en 21:20 21 ene 2026

2026-01-21T21:20:08Z

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	'''2026-Jan-14 to 2025-Jan-15 / 1.5 days / Hiking / NOBO / RR + Laguna Sucia + Option B / Kole & Emily'''		'''2026-Jan-14 to 2025-Jan-15 / 1.5 days / Hiking / NOBO / RR + Laguna Sucia + Option B / Kole & Emily'''

	Attractiveness - 4/5. Difficulty - 1/5.		Easy trail and beautiful landscapes, though we found the attractiveness somewhat undermined by the crowds. Attractiveness - 4/5. Difficulty - 1/5.

	Camp: Laguna Suica, OSM bivouac, 49.28667, -72.98471		Camp: Laguna Suica, OSM bivouac, 49.28667, -72.98471

Egforrester18 en 21:18 21 ene 2026

2026-01-21T21:18:24Z

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	==Season 2025/26==		==Season 2025/26==

			'''2026-Jan-14 to 2025-Jan-15 / 1.5 days / Hiking / NOBO / RR + Laguna Sucia + Option B / Kole & Emily'''

			Attractiveness - 4/5. Difficulty - 1/5.

			Camp: Laguna Suica, OSM bivouac, 49.28667, -72.98471

			* We’d highly recommend camping/sunrise at Laguna Suica; beautiful views with no one around. We followed the trail on the OSM starting from X {39-B} [0.6/736] which was clear and well-marked with cairns. There is some boulder scrambling at the end, but not difficult. We camped at the OSM bivouac; 3-4 spots with minimal protection, and a great cowboy spot inside a rock overhang/cave. There are 1-2 potential spots in the forest below if you’ve poor weather (around -49.28132, -72.96826).
			* Option B is worthwhile to get a view of the whole Fitzroy range, but is very crowded.
			* There are a lot of cars around Lago del Desierto. Hitching to/from was relatively easy, though a lot faster in the late afternoon when going SOBO, and morning when going NOBO. Tourists told us there’s also a bus from El Chalten.

			Accommodation - Camping Cara Sur, El Chalten. Wooden platform for tents, with rope provided for pitching. Little to no wind protection. Common space with gas stoves; good hot showers. 15.000 ARS.

	<big>'''GPT39 & 38/ 2025-12-14 to 2025-12-16/ 3 days/ Hiking/ NOBO/ RR, variant (Laguna Sucia), variant B, option 2, new variant, RR/ Greg Carter'''</big>		<big>'''GPT39 & 38/ 2025-12-14 to 2025-12-16/ 3 days/ Hiking/ NOBO/ RR, variant (Laguna Sucia), variant B, option 2, new variant, RR/ Greg Carter'''</big>

GJC1000: /* Season 2025/26 */

2025-12-17T17:47:10Z

Season 2025/26

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	==Season 2025/26==		==Season 2025/26==

			<big>'''GPT39 & 38/ 2025-12-14 to 2025-12-16/ 3 days/ Hiking/ NOBO/ RR, variant (Laguna Sucia), variant B, option 2, new variant, RR/ Greg Carter'''</big>

			Overall
			Wonderful landscapes and views, with easy mountain, valley and forest hiking and navigation.

			Attraction: 4
			Difficulty: 1

			Day 1
			El Chalten to Laguna Sucia via RR. Currently there is no control point or fee payable on the RR. The RR starts on the track to Cerro Torre which attracts plenty of tourists but has wonderful views of Cerros Torre and Fitzroy etc. The cross-track which passes Lagunas Hija and Madre is less touristy, and is a pleasant forest and lake walk with mountain views. When you get to the trail to Laguna de los Tres, tourist numbers spike dramatically. To avoid them you can hike up the valley to Laguna Sucia.

			The Laguna Sucia track is not a tourist track: it is not marked on signs and is classed as a “remote” area. To get to Laguna Sucia I went through the Poincenot campground and up the valley via a trail (marked with cairns), beside a dry southern branch of the Rio Blanco. Eventually I had to turn north to ford the Rio Blanco, to get to the main trail to Laguna Sucia, which is entirely on the northern side of the Rio Blanco. In hindsight it would have been easier to use this main trail up and back. The main trail starts shortly after a wooden bridge on the Laguna de los Tres trail. The unmarked turn-off (to the left/south) is here: -49.27880, -72.96557. Follow this trail firstly through forest then onto bouldery river terrain, high up the valley. Eventually the river valley pinches and you have to ascend a bluff to the north to get to the final section of trail. Don’t take the first trail up the bluff - it’s a very steep and muddy dirt track. Much easier to take the next trail 100m further up the valley, which is an easy rock scramble. The last section of trail involves quite a lot of rock hopping, and you will pass a small campsite (3 sites) here: -49.28673, -72.98497. The campsite doesn’t offer much protection from the wind but has superb views of the mountains. Laguna Sucia is beautiful with the mountains in the background. I was lucky enough to have a condor fly in and wash in the river.

			I went back down the valley and camped in a lovely sheltered spot in the woods here: -49.28205, -72.96560. There is plenty of water in the vicinity. In hindsight it would have been easier to camp here and do a side trip with a light day pack up to Laguna Sucia. I suggest that Laguna Sucia be a new variant.

			Day 2
			I started the day with a quick return hike up to Laguna de los Tres lookout. Superb views of the Laguna and mountains. There are 2 exposed campsites (maybe more) at the lookout, which you could use at the end of the day when tourist numbers have dwindled: -49.28042, -72.98402.

			I then hiked to Laguna Piedras Blancas. The trail is easy and well marked with cairns. Beautiful views at the Laguna.

			Instead of then following the RR I followed an easy and pleasant trail to the east which is well marked with cairns, and follows Rio Blanco. This worked well because I decided to skip the Glacier Marconi extension, and the trail cuts out a significant part of the RR to the west. I suggest that this be a new option 2A. I passed a major signed intersection at -49.23967, -72.94769. It was then an easy walk to intersect the RR at -49.23038, -72.94713. At Ruta 41 it was easy to hitch to Lago Del Desierto. I hiked about 4km along the lake and camped at a flat sheltered spot (space for 2 tents) beside the trail: -49.05881, -72.86824 (note: dry camp, but there are plenty of streams along the trail, plus occasional access to the lake, to fill up before camp). Along the trail there are stunning views of the lake, the mountains on the other side of the lake, and Cerro Fitzroy to the south-east. If you have time and the weather is good for views I highly recommend hiking the lake rather than taking the ferry.

			Day 3 (GPT39 to 38)
			I hiked to the northern end of Lago del Desierto, had my passport stamped by a friendly gendarme and continued onto GPT38. It is 22km to Candelario Mancillo, the first 7km (to the border with Chile) is slow going, in forest with a lot of up and down, mud and fallen branches. The last 15km (in Chile) are easy, being entirely on a well-maintained secondary road. In Candelario Mancillo my passport was stamped by a friendly carabinero, after he took approx 20min to do some online checks.

			I then walked about 1km S-E, along the coastal road, to get to the campground Camping Estancia Santa Teresita (-48.87812, -72.73993). There is a friendly manager called Ricardo. Cost CLP10,000/night per tent. Free StarLink wifi! Freshly baked pan. No cervezas when I was there.


	<big>'''2025-11-19 to 2025-11-20 / 1.5 days / hiking / NOBO / Varient C, Laguna Sucia , Option 2, RR, Varient A / Ohad & Bailey'''</big>		<big>'''2025-11-19 to 2025-11-20 / 1.5 days / hiking / NOBO / Varient C, Laguna Sucia , Option 2, RR, Varient A / Ohad & Bailey'''</big>

Ohad.elkin: /* Season 2025/26 */

2025-11-24T22:29:16Z

Season 2025/26

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	==Season 2025/26==		==Season 2025/26==
			<big>'''2025-11-19 to 2025-11-20 / 1.5 days / hiking / NOBO / Varient C, Laguna Sucia , Option 2, RR, Varient A / Ohad & Bailey'''</big>

			Gorgeous section, with heavely crowded parts. We walked from town straight to Laguna Sucia, then to Laguna piedras blancas. Hitched 19km~ on the road and took the boat ride on Lago del Desierto

			Fees:
			We paid 67000$, we weren't sure if we will get checked when exiting the park so we bought tickets for 2 days, this was unnecessary as there was no one at the north checkpoint.
			Single day is 45000$ which you can avoid if going on RR (no checkpoint to Laguna Torre)
			The boat on Lago del Desierto was 50000$

			Camps:
			OSM Biviouac Waypoint near Laguna Sucia at S 49.286749 W 072.985096.
			Beautiful campsite just beneath Mt. Fitz Roy, on the way to the laguna there is a sign saying that in order to go you need to register with park authorities, we did not.
			Not a well known spot so while the view may be a tiny bit infirior to the view from Laguna de los tres, The fact we were alone was amazing.
			There is a stream and protected spots.

			Argentinian Border Control, talked to the Carabineros which pointed us to where we could sleep. Just after the helipad.

			Fords:
			Non notable

			Water:
			No problem

			Trail Conditions/Challenges:
			Varient C is very well maintained, some parts are muddy and overflowing but overall great trail. Lots of people.

			Trail to Laguna Sucia well marked with Cairns, very bouldery. There is an option to go on a very steep bypass trail in the forest or scramble up a rock face. We found the rock face nicer.

			Option two (didnt enter Valle Electrico) was less maintainted but quite clear.

			Lots of Cars parking before Bridge, X {39} [31.7/449], the bridge seems sketchy and puts off a lot of drivers but it was reletivley easy to hitch.

			The boat ride was scenic and enjoyable. Theres a resturant and tiny stand, The last boat was at 16:00. Going NOBO was easy, SOBO it seems you need to reserve it beforehand, there is wifi at the argentinian border control.

			Attractiveness: 5/5
			Difficulty: 1/5

	==Season 2024/25==		==Season 2024/25==