GPT27H (Lago Palena) - Historial de revisiones

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2026-02-02T18:58:01Z

‎Season 2025/26

Mokrac: /* Season 2024/25 */

2025-02-22T10:42:33Z

‎Season 2024/25

Pierre-Marie: /* Season 2024/25 */

2025-02-12T17:47:22Z

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2024-12-02T22:09:03Z

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2024-12-02T22:08:45Z

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Felagund en 19:32 2 dic 2024

2024-12-02T19:32:44Z

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2024-11-28T18:25:16Z

‎Season 2021/22

Felagund: /* Season 2019/20 */

2024-11-28T18:24:42Z

‎Season 2019/20

Felagund en 18:23 28 nov 2024

2024-11-28T18:23:52Z

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	==Season 2025/26==		==Season 2025/26==
		+	''' GPT27/2026-01-30 to 2026-02-02/3,5 days/ SOBO/RR-variant D,E/Denis, Robert '''
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		+	Good resupply option in Palena.
		+	No water issues for the whole section.
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		+	First day was easy going mostly on minor road and last kilometers on trail.
		+	After kilometer 20 you need to ford Rio Azul few times but water level was up to my knee. We slept at the end of the valley at 32km. We forgot caffe filter there, so if you find it it’s yours.Nice spot next to the river before going uphill.
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		+	CC is not difficult, it is basically slalom between small bushes but always with the good option to avoid them. At elevation 860m we joined really nice trail leading us to the pass. Nice camping spot at km 36 with water anywhere on the meadow or as well in the pass nice small lake with tiny island in the middle and amazing views from the both spots. Way down from the pass is fine on trail with few fallen trees but nothing crazy.
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		+	Then from 40 km as we got down to lake it started. From here to 76 km when we forded Rio Claro it was very challenging. Don’t expect more than 200 meters of trail without fallen trees. And expect slower pace something around 2-2,5km/hour. At least trail is almost everywhere visible. So it is easier to navigate.
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		+	On this stretch there are some better and worse parts.
		+	40-47km, 52-54km many fallen trees you need to climb over or go around.
		+	68-76km fallen trees, mud and trail goes everywhere but not straight where you would expect. ( this part took us almost 4 hours)
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		+	After fording river at 76km it is easy going trail and there are many nice camping spots in forest for next 7km. We missed the RR so we stayed on variant D and then variant E seemed to be much easier and we had enough of fallen trees.
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		+	Difficulty 5/5
		+	Attractiveness 3/5

	==Season 2024/25==		==Season 2024/25==

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	==Season 2024/25==		==Season 2024/25==
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		+	*'''2025-FEB-13 to 2025-FEB-16 / 3,5 days / Hiking / SOBO / RR+OH (var. D, E) / Ivan, Jakub, Daniel, Martina'''
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		+	A beautifully wild and forested section, full of fallen tree crossings but also offering some stunning viewpoints.
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		+	At coordinates (-43.7153061, -71.8151759), the MR ended at a fence, beyond which bush bashing seemed likely. Instead, we followed a small path uphill to a road (end of variant A). As the steep ascent began, we stayed on the trail marked in OSM maps. The trail occasionally faded, but it wasn't that hard CC. Just below the pass, we found Chaura berries.
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		+	The descent toward Lago Palena includes some sections where we had to deal with some fallen trees. However, the real challenge comes in the stretch between Lake [43.2/948] (Puntilla Lopez) and Refuge ? [45.7/974], where fallen trees become a major obstacle. From this point, the number of fallen trees blocking the trail decreases significantly but remains enough to haunt your dreams at night. The houses near Refuge, Park Ranger [52.1/947] appear abandoned.
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		+	The river crossings near the lake at km [62-62.8] were passable with dry feet due to low water levels. From Camp [68/809], the trail becomes very muddy. A simple trail starts after the crossing at [75.6/375]. We followed the path until we reached variant D, which was a longer but nice detour. The crossing at [85/402] was also dry-foot passable. The trail leading from X [90.2/543] appeared overgrown, so we opted for variant E.
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		+	CHALLENGES:
		+	Fallen trees blocking the trail
		+	Muddy path sections
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		+	BIVOUACKING:
		+	Before the pass ascent [37.1/1367], there are plenty of tent spots near the creek.
		+	Several camping spots are available near the lake.
		+	We spent the night at the lake’s inlet, just past the crossing [43.0/943].
		+	The next night, we stayed at Camp [68/809], which offers multiple tent spots and a fire pit.
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		+	WATER:
		+	Water is plentiful throughout the section.
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		+	RESUPPLY:
		+	We arrived in Lago Verde in the evening. The only store open on Sunday until 21:00 was at coordinates (-44.2385274, -71.8502104), offering a decent selection of supplies. Another supermarket at (-44.2408180, -71.8494809) reportedly opens at 10:30 on weekdays.
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	* ''' 2025-FEV-03 > 06 / 3,5 jours / Randonnée / SOBO / RR > 27-D > RR > 27-E > RR / Pierre-Marie '''		* ''' 2025-FEV-03 > 06 / 3,5 jours / Randonnée / SOBO / RR > 27-D > RR > 27-E > RR / Pierre-Marie '''

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	==Season 2024/25==		==Season 2024/25==
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		+	* ''' 2025-FEV-03 > 06 / 3,5 jours / Randonnée / SOBO / RR > 27-D > RR > 27-E > RR / Pierre-Marie '''
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		+	Etape : GPT27+GPT28+<strike>GPT29</strike>+GPT30
		+	\| Meteo : petite pluie, soleil, petite pluie, nuages et vent
		+	\| Eau : facile
		+	\| Neige : non
		+	\| Intérêt : 4/5
		+	\| Difficulté : 5/5
		+	\| Danger : gravel road, boue, arbres couchés
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		+	La pause à Palena m'a fait du bien. Je repars en faisant de l'auto-stop les 5 premiers km. La gravel road se termine vite et la vallée est vraiment belle. Il y a deux fords à la suite aux km 30,5 et 30,7. Sur cette section j'ai trouvé que les endroits où le sentier débouche sur la rivière sont rarement les endroits les plus simple pour traverser. J'ai souvent marché quelques dizaines de mètres pour assurer mes traversées. Le sentier est balisé mais il ne faut pas compter dessus. La montée du km 33 se fait en hors piste. Il est facile de retrouver le sentier plus haut car il n'y a pas de végétation dans le sous-bois. La forêt est magnifique sur cette section du GPT. Il y a beaucoup d'arbres couchés sur le sentier, mais ce sont surtout des zones, ce n'est pas uniforme. Ca commence au km 39. La partie la plus difficile se situe entre le km 43 et 46 où on est sérieusement ralenti. Il y a quelques centaines de mètres qui sont envahie par la végétation mais ca n'impacte pas la randonnée. Il y a un ford au km 52,2.
		+	Vers le km 59 le sentier disparaît, il faut suivre son GPS jusqu'au km 61. Il y a plein de vaches dans cette zone, elles sont arrivées par le sentier sud. Je n'ai pas marché dans l'eau du lac car le niveau était suffisamment bas, sauf pour le ford du km 62,9 ce qui est normal. Grâce aux vaches le sentier est plus facile a suivre, mais il est particulièrement boueux. Il y a quelques passages boueux dès le km 66. Mais du km 68 au km 75 c'est vraiment une ornière de boue pendant 7km. La randonnee est vraiment difficile sur cette zone. Du km 75 au km 76 le sentier est difficile à suivre. Ensuite la forêt est plus sèche mais tout aussi belle que la précédente. Le sentier est en bon état. Je suis passé par la 27-D car j'ai suivi les traces des vaches. Après le km 83,5 j'ai suivi la route et pas la trace GPS.

	* <span style="background-color:aqua;">'''GPT27H Option 3 / Lago Rosselot / Round Trip / 2024-Nov-18 and 19 / 2 days / Meylin Ubilla and Jan Dudeck'''</span>		* <span style="background-color:aqua;">'''GPT27H Option 3 / Lago Rosselot / Round Trip / 2024-Nov-18 and 19 / 2 days / Meylin Ubilla and Jan Dudeck'''</span>

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 * '''2023 February Frank'''
- There was a fire in Valle Tigre but it was up on the mountain & had no effect on the RR which is in the valley on a road. The crux ford is the first one on Rio Claro/Quinto which you can reach in one long day NOBO. 4 more fords on Rio Claro & 4 on Rio Azul, all knee deep & easy when I went through in late February.
+There was a fire in Valle Tigre but it was up on the mountain & had no effect on the RR which is in the valley on a road. The crux ford is the first one on Rio Claro/Quinto which you can reach in one long day NOBO. 4 more fords on Rio Claro & 4 on Rio Azul, all knee deep & easy when I went through in late February.
 ==Season 2022/23==

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	I really loved that wild section, the rainforest is amazing, all the flora there is incredible, it's just you and the nature, you'll say that most of the sections of GPT are like that. But here's a little bit more than usual.		I really loved that wild section, the rainforest is amazing, all the flora there is incredible, it's just you and the nature, you'll say that most of the sections of GPT are like that. But here's a little bit more than usual.
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		+	* '''2023 February Frank'''
		+	There was a fire in Valle Tigre but it was up on the mountain & had no effect on the RR which is in the valley on a road. The crux ford is the first one on Rio Claro/Quinto which you can reach in one long day NOBO. 4 more fords on Rio Claro & 4 on Rio Azul, all knee deep & easy when I went through in late February.

	==Season 2022/23==		==Season 2022/23==

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 <nowiki>* '''</nowiki>'''Start Date to Finish Date (use Format YYYY-MMM-DD) / Duration in Days / Hiking or <span style="background-color:aqua;">Packrafting</span> / Travel Direction (SOBO for Southbound or NOBO Northbound) / Chosen Route and/or Option Name (RR for Regular Route) / Names or Alias'''<nowiki>'''</nowiki>
-If you are packrafting, put the above into like this <nowiki><span style="background-color:aqua;"></nowiki><span style="background-color:aqua;">'''YYYY-MMM-DD / X days / Packrafting / SOBO / RP / Your name'''</span><nowiki></span></nowiki>. If you follow a hiking route for part of the way, highlight only "packrafting".
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 =Overview=

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 ==Season 2021/22==
-* GPT27H Option 3 / Lago Rosselot /  2021-Dec-08 and 09 / Direction: Circuit
+* '''<span style="background-color:aqua;">GPT27H Option 3 / Lago Rosselot /  Pacrafting / 2021-Dec-08 and 09 / Direction: Circuit</span>'''
 Participants: Meylin Elisabeth Ubilla González and Jan Dudeck

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 ==Season 2019/20==
-* Martin Lizondo / 8 to 14-Jan-2020 / Hiking Southbound
+* '''Martin Lizondo / 8 to 14-Jan-2020 / Hiking Southbound'''
 Río Claro/Quinto currently impossible to cross. Recommended time: February after some days with no or little rain. Best hike northbound to cross this river at the beginning of the traverse. See also log for further recommendations.
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 The packrafting route was very well marked. Hard river fording of Estero Matrera (43º 47' 18,67" S, 71º 47' 4,28" O ) Added difficulty was from the fact that I found a lot of fresh knee level snow!
-* '''Down at the lake, there’s a carabineros post, which is the last human presence in the area. From that point starts a pretty overground trail that goes to Punta Lopez. Very steepy and risky. The track isn’t recorded in the GPT files (Jan-2020), so ask in the Facebook group (https://www.facebook.com/groups/222224388283455/?ref=share).'''
+Down at the lake, there’s a carabineros post, which is the last human presence in the area. From that point starts a pretty overground trail that goes to Punta Lopez. Very steepy and risky. The track isn’t recorded in the GPT files (Jan-2020), so ask in the Facebook group (https://www.facebook.com/groups/222224388283455/?ref=share).
 From Punta Lopez ( 43º 53' 23,16" S, 71º 52' 53,65" O ) the trail is better maintained and much more visible. The refuges of Conaf are empty with no human presence ( 43º 55' 24,16" S, 71º 49' 10,13" O ) . From that point the river crossing becomes very frequent. Expect to ford many times per hour. The path also gets into the water of Lago Quinto.

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	Summary with remarks to route that are considered useful for other hikers and packrafters. Include alerts, suggestions and personal perception of attractiveness and difficulties. Try to be specific. Do not be shy to fix obvious mistakes.		Summary with remarks to route that are considered useful for other hikers and packrafters. Include alerts, suggestions and personal perception of attractiveness and difficulties. Try to be specific. Do not be shy to fix obvious mistakes.
		+	=Overview=
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		+	* General Recommendation: the critical point (the crux of the section) is the ford of Rio Claro/Quinto. This river crossing not too far from the southern start Lago Verde. Therefore it is highly recommended to go northbound and attempt this section after most of the snow is molten and without heavy rains predicted. If you walk southbound and can't cross Rio Claro or Rio Quinto you face a long & rough walk back.

	=Section Log, Alerts and Suggestions=		=Section Log, Alerts and Suggestions=