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GPT29P - Valle Picacho

2020-03-24T19:57:54Z

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==Summary Table==
{| border="1" style="border-collapse:collapse"
| colspan="4" style="background-color:#bfbfbf;"| '''GPT29P: Valle Picacho'''
| colspan="2" style="background-color:#bfbfbf; text-align:right;"| Hiking
| colspan="2" style="background-color:#bfbfbf; text-align:right;"| Packrafting
|-
|style="background-color:#bfbfbf;"|Group
| colspan="2" | G: Aysen Norte
|style="background-color:#bfbfbf; text-align:right;"| Total
|style="background-color:#ffdba5; text-align:right;"|'''-'''
|style="background-color:#ffdba5; text-align:right;"|'''-'''
|style="background-color:#a5e5ff; text-align:right;"| '''192.4 km'''
|style="background-color:#a5e5ff; text-align:right;"|'''44 h'''
|-
| style="background-color:#bfbfbf;"|Region
| colspan="2" | Chile: Aysén (XI)
|style="background-color:#bfbfbf; text-align:right;"| Trails (TL)
|style="background-color:#ffdba5; text-align:right;"|-
|style="background-color:#ffdba5; text-align:right;"|-
|style="background-color:#a5e5ff; text-align:right;"| 0.7 km
|style="background-color:#a5e5ff; text-align:right;"|0.40%
|-
|style="background-color:#bfbfbf;"| Start
| colspan="2" | Carretera Austral (Camino Picaflor)
|style="background-color:#bfbfbf; text-align:right;"| Minor Roads (MR)
|style="background-color:#ffdba5; text-align:right;"|-
|style="background-color:#ffdba5; text-align:right;"|-
|style="background-color:#a5e5ff; text-align:right;"| 24.0 km
|style="background-color:#a5e5ff; text-align:right;"| 12.50%
|-
|style="background-color:#bfbfbf;"| Finish
| colspan="2" | Puerto Cisnes, Puerto Cisnes
|style="background-color:#bfbfbf; text-align:right;"| Primary Roads (PR)
|style="background-color:#ffdba5; text-align:right;"|-
|style="background-color:#ffdba5; text-align:right;"|-
|style="background-color:#a5e5ff; text-align:right;"| 12.7 km
|style="background-color:#a5e5ff; text-align:right;"| 6.60%
|-
|style="background-color:#bfbfbf;"| Status
| colspan="2" | Published & Verified
|style="background-color:#bfbfbf; text-align:right;"| Cross-Country (CC)
|style="background-color:#ffdba5; text-align:right;"|-
|style="background-color:#ffdba5; text-align:right;"|-
|style="background-color:#a5e5ff; text-align:right;"| 3.9 km
|style="background-color:#a5e5ff; text-align:right;"| 2.00%
|-
|style="background-color:#bfbfbf;"| Traversable
| colspan="2" | Jan - Apr (Maybe: Dec, May)
|style="background-color:#bfbfbf; text-align:right;"| Bush-Bashing (BB)
|style="background-color:#ffdba5; text-align:right;"|-
|style="background-color:#ffdba5; text-align:right;"|-
|style="background-color:#a5e5ff; text-align:right;"| 1.3 km
|style="background-color:#a5e5ff; text-align:right;"|0.70%
|-
|style="background-color:#bfbfbf;"| Packraft
| colspan="2" | Required
|style="background-color:#bfbfbf; text-align:right;"| Ferry (FY)
|style="background-color:#ffdba5; text-align:right;"|-
|style="background-color:#ffdba5; text-align:right;"|-
|style="background-color:#a5e5ff; text-align:right;"| -
|style="background-color:#a5e5ff; text-align:right;"|-
|-
|style="background-color:#bfbfbf;"| Connects to
| colspan="2" | GPT28P, GPT29H, GPT30H, GPT30P, GPT31P
|style="background-color:#bfbfbf; text-align:right;"| Investigation (I)
|style="background-color:#ffdba5; text-align:right;"|-
|style="background-color:#ffdba5; text-align:right;"|-
|style="background-color:#a5e5ff; text-align:right;"| -
|style="background-color:#a5e5ff; text-align:right;"| -
|-
|style="background-color:#bfbfbf;"| Options
| colspan="2" | 263 km (3 Options & Variants)
|style="background-color:#bfbfbf; text-align:right;"| Exploration (EXP)
|style="background-color:#ffdba5; text-align:right;"|-
|style="background-color:#ffdba5; text-align:right;"|-
|style="background-color:#a5e5ff; text-align:right;"| (39.9 km)
|style="background-color:#a5e5ff; text-align:right;"|(20.7%)
|-
|style="background-color:#bfbfbf;"|
|style="background-color:#bfbfbf;"| Hiking
|style="background-color:#bfbfbf;"| Packrafting
| rowspan="4" style="background-color:#bfbfbf;"|
| colspan="2" style="background-color:#bfbfbf; text-align:right;"| Total on Water
|style="background-color:#a5e5ff; text-align:right;"| '''149.7 km'''
|style="background-color:#a5e5ff; text-align:right;"| '''77.8%'''
|-
|style="background-color:#bfbfbf;"| Attraction
|style="background-color:#ffdba5;"|-
|style="background-color:#a5e5ff;"| 5 (of 5)
| colspan="2" style="background-color:#bfbfbf; text-align:right;"| River (RI)
|style="background-color:#a5e5ff; text-align:right;"| 127.2 km
|style="background-color:#a5e5ff; text-align:right;"| 66.1%
|-
|style="background-color:#bfbfbf;"| Difficulty
|style="background-color:#ffdba5;"|-
|style="background-color:#a5e5ff;"| 6 (of 5)
| colspan="2" style="background-color:#bfbfbf; text-align:right;"| Lake (LK)
|style="background-color:#a5e5ff; text-align:right;"| 16.3 km
|style="background-color:#a5e5ff; text-align:right;"| 8.5%
|-
| style="background-color:#bfbfbf;"|Direction
|style="background-color:#ffdba5;"|None
|style="background-color:#a5e5ff;"|Only ↑
| colspan="2" style="background-color:#bfbfbf; text-align:right;"| Fjord (FJ)
|style="background-color:#a5e5ff; text-align:right;"| 6.1 km
|style="background-color:#a5e5ff; text-align:right;"|3.2%
|-
|style="background-color:#bfbfbf;"| Comment
| colspan="7" | Hiking: Hiking not feasible
|-
|style="background-color:#bfbfbf;"| Character
| colspan="7" | Packrafting: Flip-Flop recommended
|-
|style="background-color:#bfbfbf;"| Challenges
| colspan="7" | Valdivian Rain Forest, Sea Coast, Farmland, Settlers, Unpeopled Areas, River Packrafting, Lake Packrafting, Fjord Packrafting
|}

==Satellite Image Map==
==Elevation Profile==
====Elevation Profile of Regular Packrafting Route====
[[File:Elevation Profile RP@29P.png|1000px]]

==Summary==
==Section Attractiveness==
==Section Difficulty==
==Section Planning Status==
==Recommended Travel Period==
==Permits, Entry Fees and Right-of-Way Issues==
==Section Length and Travel Duration==
==Recommended Travel Direction==
==Benefits of Hiking and Packrafting==
==Suitable Section Combinations==
==Resupply==
===Resupply in Puerto Aysen===
===Resupply on the Route===
==Access to Route and Return==
==Escape Options==
==Regular Hiking Route==
==Regular Packrafting Route==
==Optional Routes==
==Investigations and Explorations==
==Links to other Resources==
==Route Development and Contributors==
==Alerts, Suggestions and Section Logs of Past Seasons==
===Season 2018/2019===
* GPT29P Valle Picacho Regular Packrafting Route / 2019-Jan-11 / 3.5 days / With Tobias Hellwig W, Ricardo Campos , Jen Ni and Meylin Elisabeth Ubilla González

This packrafting section is a hidden treasure for experienced packrafters that enjoy particularly remote areas and don’t mind to bushwhack through dense forrest. Very few people in this region even heard about these places making this traverse a journey into mystic place.

The hard to predict river and lake water levels and one not fully researched portage mean that this section remains an exploration section.

We highly enjoyed researching and reopening this section with Tobias Hellwig and Ricardo Campos, two Chileans living in Coyhaique and with Jenni, a GPT hiker of the “GPT class 2018/19”. Without them we would have struggled much more and much longer on this particular depopulated section.

The first documented traverse of this route was made by the explorer Augusto Grosse in 1944. Grosse with a couple of man explored this valley all the way to the port town Puerto Cisnes at the Pacific Ocean with a wooden boat.

One or two decades later the first settlers attempted to “hacer patria” along the lakes and rivers of this valley. At both sides of Rio Picacho you still find cattle pastures and a couple of houses but all settlers left Lago Copa and only one settler remains on the more accessible side of Lago Escondido (Don Transito Lopez). A last visible reminder of the settling attempt at Lago Copa are two abandoned fishing lodges; one smashed by landslide and the other one still standing offering some shelter before it will collapse in a couple of years.

The impressive mountains, powerful rivers, pristine lakes and engulfing forests are not welcoming human visitors all year around but someone must choose the timing of a traverse wisely. Snowmelt and rain quickly change the level of the rivers and the shoreline of the lakes reveals water level fluctuations of 3 m or even more.

Decades ago settlers moved up and down the valley using wooden rowing boats in the lakes and a few short trails between the lakes to bypass potential mortal rapids. We found these portage trails completely overgrown and a couple of machetes were as essential as our packrafts to complete this traverse. So someone must arrive prepared to battle his way through the short but overgrown portages as vegetation quickly recaptures the previous well maintained trails.

The traverse from the first put in is nearly completely on water with:
42 km on rivers
18 km on lakes
3 km on a fjord
And 1.2 to 2 km demanding bushwhacking (depending on water level and required portages)

Arrival to Trail Head

We went by car to the first river put in. Public transportation gets you the crossing “Picaflor” on the Carratera Austral from where it is a 14 km walk on a dirt road to the Rio Picacho put in.

Resupply on the Trail

There is no resupply all the way to Puerto Cisnes but the high packrafting ratio permits carrying lots of food (and beer and wine?) without a significant weight penalty. Therefore pack plenty of food to have a contingency reserve in this difficult to predict terrain.

Part 1: Rio Picacho

At the first put in the river water level was just sufficient to mostly avoid ground contacts. This was after some rain in the days before our trip. So in a dry period it might be advisable to hike further downstream on the left or right side of the river before starting to packraft. A couple of easy to moderate rapids can either be paddled or portered. This conclusion is based on the moderate river water level when we packrafted Rio Picacho.

Part 2: Lago Copa

Lago Copa changes the water level quickly and substantially. We have seen wood washed on shore about 3 m above the water level compared to the level when we packrafted the lake. During the night we spend on the lake the water level was rising an estimated 30 cm after a day with moderate rain.

Lago Copa is divided by 3 significant rapids into 4 sub-lakes before it flows in a last long rapid into Lago Escondido. All rapids can portered and most should be portered.

First Rapid: The first rapid was safe to packraft and also a portage would have been reasonable easy. The portage requires opening a passage of about 50 m through not particular dense forrest on the left side of the rapid.

Second Rapid: A particular challenge is the second of the three rapids that is located halfway in a 300 m long gorge. We could porter this rapid right on the right edge in the gorge but with a slightly higher water this would not have been possible. This rapid can also not safely be scouted as the “point of no return” is right on the entrance of the gorge. The safest option to bypass this second rapid is therefore opening an old completely overgrown 700 to 800 m long portage trail through dense forrest. This will take about one full day. The old trail starts on an collapsed settlers home on the left side just before the entrance into the gorge and leads counterclockwise around the rather round hill that forms the left side of the gorge.

Third Rapid: The third rapid appeared as unsafe to paddle as the second rapid so we searched a portage. We found about 100 m to the right of the rapid a wooden boat tight to a tree and there a still visible trail started. We opened this 100 m long trail by machete and ported the packrafts without deflating them.

Part 3: Lago Copa to Lago Escondido

We investigated this portage a year ago in January 2018 from Lago Escondido going upstream starting in Puerto Cisnes. We found signs of a trail and partially cleaned and recorded this trail but very dense vegetation and deteriorating weather stopped us halfway before reaching Lago Copa. This partial GPS record was a very useful hint where to search this portage from the opposite end in Lago Copa. A old pice of rope hanging down from a tree was the vital sign that pointed us directly to the trail head when researching the lake shore for the start of the portage from Lago Copa to Lago Escondido.

This roughly 1 km long portage trail was in parts still visible but completely overgrown. In order to reopen this route for future packrafters we made the effort to search and thoroughly clean this portage trail. With 5 people and 4 machetes we were working our way to Lago Escondido in about 5 to 6 hours leaving a now well visible and open route through the dense forrest. But the rapidly growing vegetation makes it necessary that any packrafter carries a machete to keep the passage open and visible.

Part 4: Lago Escondido

Paddling this pristine mountain lake on the evening of the 3rd day was our premium after nearly one day of bushwhacking.

Part 5: Rio Cisnes and Puerto Cisnes

There is a moderate rapid in the outlet of Lago Escondido just before it joins Rio Cisnes. We packrafted the rapid but a portage is also possible. The rapid is less powerful during high tide as this lower part if Rio Cisnes is affected by tides.

The paddle on Rio Cisnes and through the fjord to Puerto Cisnes is easy as long not facing heavy head wind.

===Season 2019/2020===
* Alternative route going from North to South, from the crossing “Picaflor” on the Carratera Austral down to Puerto Aysen.
January 28-29.

From the crossing “Picaflor” on the Carratera Austral, follow the dirt road and Rio Picaflor for roughly 11km until you meet Rio Mañihuales.

I wanted to put in further upstream on Rio Picaflor, which is a pretty-looking small river, but there are too many fallen trees accross the water and it didn't seem to be worth the effort.
The Upper Mañihuales, then, is a narrow, shallow, slow-moving river. Some parts are already so shallow in January that you'll touch bottom regardless of your skills at reading rivers. It's a nice little stroll for about 10km. While the scenery is not impressive at the start it improves dramatically as you progress.
After paddling for about 12km, you hit a first, fun rapid. Quickly, a second rapid that you should scout first (impressive drop). Then quickly a third, scary-looking one. It might not be very technical but it sure looks like the kind of rapid you don't wanna go into solo. It marks the start of a long, Class-IV section. Fortunately, you can easily take out and reach the Carretera Austral nearby. You have about 6km left to reach Villa Mañihuales.
I would strongly advise against going solo from there on.
This first section takes about 3 hours.

You can of course easily resupply and camp in Villa Mañihuales, which is a pretty little town.

You can then get back into Rio Mañihuales from Puente Mañihuales II, roughly 22km south of Villa Mañihuales on the Carretera Austral.
The road from Villa Mañihuales to the bridge is stunning and so is the Rio, with crystal clear water. Experienced paddlers should not have any problems. Others should proceed with caution in the first few rapids (one that you should scouted first, I think it was the third one). Quite a few dead trees and branches are stuck in the rapids. Again, proceed with caution.

No hazard once you've paddled accross the first couple km.

On the day of that trip, head winds were getting quite strong while approaching the valley where Puerto Aysen lies. Taking out at Puente Mañihuales I, I covered the 20km in roughly 3,5 hours.

[[category:Greater Patagonian Trail]]

Greater Patagonian Trail track files

2019-11-19T10:27:30Z

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*'''gorskial''': plan to bike/packraft along the carretera austral from Puerto Montt to Villa O'Higgins with hiking side trips. Jan/feb 2020

*'''pitney''': Solo hiking GPT sections 6-22 Southbound beginning early January, 2020.

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*'''bob451''': Planning on solo hiking 2 or 3 sections of the GPT northbound March/April 2019.
*'''Mgabenesch''' : Planning on hiking most parts of the GPT, starting in Ushuaïa then going North. I have on year off. Starting Dec 2019
*'''Family Size''': Planning on hiking parts of the GPT southbound. Starting end of November 2019.
*'''shaunchurch''': Hope to solo hike/packraft a few sections southbound. Section 15 or 17 in Dec 2019. Then maybe a couple more from among sections 21-31 in Jan and Feb 2020.
*'''iank''':2 months jan and feb 2020. Hope to hike isla navarino, cirque of huemuls and then cochrane to chile chico. More northerly secions maybe 2021.
*'''dsmit3000''': Solo hiker planning on hiking GPT40-31 northbound November-January 2019.
*'''2As''': We plan to walk in Chile and Argentina from mid October 2019 to mid march 2020. We don't have precisely planned our trip but the root of our trip is to go by foot through Patagonia and also discover Chile and his people and culture.
*'''A pat''': We plan to do several sections of the GPT (Need to confirm but we are interesting in sections 08-22 and 35- 40) from January to early March 2020.
*'''Andrealopezb''': I plan on doing individual sections for the time being, mostly between Santiago-El Maule
*'''annbrnn''': Heya, a friend and I are planning on hiking several sections of the GPT beginning end of December 2019 and are currently in the process of determining our route.
*'''AlexEdge''': Hi, i am planning to hike the lower sections of this route with a couple friends, possibly febuary 2020. thank you!
*'''Arno507''': We plan to do several sections of the GPT starting fom November/December 2019 till early April 2020.
*'''Birdy ''': I plan to mostly walk from Lake Titicaca to Ushuaia starting November 2019.
*'''David''': Hello!! This is David from Barcelona and I'm planning to walk through the Patagonia for 4 month from January 2020. I would love to do all de GPT, but I'm not sure if it's too ambitious... For sure, I'll try it!! :-) I would really appreciate if you can provide me the gps track files. Many thanks!!
*'''Dubrovskiy''': 2 people, January 2020, Foot hiking southern parts, likely around GPT40-33.
*'''Edwinb''': I will be arriving in Chile in Nov and plan to cherry pick parts of the GPT and mix it with other trekking, basically like I did last year. Always interested in a bit of exploring, providing it doesn't get to extreme!
*'''Hendrik Niehaus''': We arrive in Chile early Oktober 2019. From November until January we plan to be on the GPT. Due to the recommendations of the hikers manual we are mainly interested in section 5-16. However, plans might still change and are not too fixed yet. Thank you in advance!
*'''Herman van Horssen''': We plan to do section 47 to 69 of the GPT in 2020.
*'''johansonst333''': Hi! I am planning the sections 30 - 40 during this hiking season, would be incredibly grateful to have the GPS files for further research and planning. Thank you in advance!
*'''Jose Barros''' Hello !Im jose from Santiago de Chile, i will do the sections from Conquillio national park to Puyehue national park, its aprox. 15 days in January, i think it will be great ! If you can provide the track files i will be very thankfull.
*'''Jose Roman''': Hi, my plan is to several sections by bike or hiking staring September 2019 until Abril 2020.
*'''JUNHUI SON''': Hi, I'm from South Korea, I plan to do section 1 to 40 of the GPT in September 2019 till November.
*'''Kendon''': I cycled Patagonia many year ago and have always wanted to return for an extended walk through this wonderful area. I am in preliminary stages of my planning and thank you for your efforts in providing such a great resource. I am looking at the 2020 summer.
*'''Martín H.I.''': Hello, I´m planning to make an attempt to hike from sections GPT01 to GPT22 this summer from December 2019 to February 2020, still deciding on the exact sections, but southbound is my direction. I´m a chilean 25 year old architect who will humbly try to hike this unique trail. Thank you Jan for the amazing creation.
*'''Martin Lizondo''': I will be hiking southbound from Anticura (GPT20) to El Chaltén (GPT39), between December 2019 and February 2020. It's my second season in the GPT, after hiking from Santiago (GPT01) to Anticura (GPT19) in 2018-2019.
*'''martinahaller''': We will be arriving in Chile in Nov and plan to hike parts of the GPT during the next 6 Month, starting in Santiago.
*'''Maturin''': Hi, I am currently figuring out the details to hike GPT06 to GPT08 from the 27th of December 2019 until mid January. I will be doing the Horseriding tour before. I speak fluent spanish and the idea is to go southbound. Thank you!
*'''Matúš Lašan''': We plan to do as much as possible from December 2019 till March 2020.
*'''msantelli''': Hi, Melissa, plan to trek sections 05-22 taking a chance to start mid-late Nov. of ‘19 may need to backtrack and cut a few sections out, if rivers can’t be ford/crossed-flexible schedule
*'''Meylin Ubilla and Jan Dudeck''': We plan to investigate new packrafting and hiking routes in more remote areas between Puerto Montt and El Chalten without making a single long traverse (GPT21 to GPT40, GPT90P to GPT 92P). We will depart in November 2019 and plan to finish in February 2020. Experienced packrafts may join us for these investigations.
*'''Lauric Olrik''': We plan to do several sections of the GPT starting from November 2019, we have a whole year off.
*'''Lea Geibel''': Hi, my plan is to do several sections of the GPT starting fom October/November 2019 until beginning of January 2020 and need to figure out which ones are suitable for such an early start.
*'''Linda''': Hi, I am planning to hike alone southbound the GPT from beginning of December 2019 to mid-February 2020, probably from GPT06 to GPT22, but I am still studying the routes and the sections. I spoke quite good spanish, at least, it will come back there, practicing ! Thank you !
*'''Oreste Marquis''': Hello, i'm planning to hike sections 06-22 and 32-40 if time allows it. My trip will be from January to Abril 2020.
*'''Sanita Heinz''': We plan to do section 1 to 40 of the GPT in December 2019 till March 2020.
*'''Selma''': We are planning to packraft some sections of the GPT during our stay in Nov/Dez '19
*'''Staci Garcia''': Hello, I am planning on doing several sections of the GPT in 2020. I am still in research on what sections.
*'''TrashPanda''': Hi, we plan to do several sections from the end of November 2019 till February 2020.
*'''tom347''': Hola, I plan to do part of parts 1 to 40 with a friend, starting mid october. We will be hitchhiking the parts that are not recomended in particular months. We will be travelling for aproximately 2 months. Gracias.
*'''Tombartlett''': Hello I am planning on hiking many sections over a three month period from November 2019 to February 2020.
*'''Wanderwood18 ''': We plan to make it to El Chalten/Fitz Roy in one season from Santiago. This means I’ll probably skip recommended sections to skip/do what I need to do to make it. I’m flexible, we will see how it goes. My girlfriend, America, and I are planning on starting around Nov. 10th….